I hate truscum because if you say anything like “the transmed community is kinda toxic” or “I love being trans and the trans community” they immediately assume you don’t experience dysphoria and like start misgendering you and get their cis friends to help harass you
Trans Person: I love myself and my trans identity and I think being part of the trans community is a beautiful thing!
Transmed: here we go boys, looks like we got another yaoi girl fujoshi tucute on our hands fellas. Do you dye your hair too cuntboy? Let me notify my cis mutuals that you’re really a GIRL who doesn’t experience DYSPHORIA
I blame toxic masculinity since the majority of them are straight trans dudes goin after other trans dudes and trans masc nb
I’m not going to comment on any of the “women in the alt right” posts flying around today because my perspective is so skewed from following the far right. By necessity I’ve gotten to the point I don’t react to them viscerally anymore like normal people do.
But from my perspective, the increased visibility of the issue is good for us (people who hate Nazis). The debate over women in the alt right is creating more dissent within their movement. There are increasing divisions between three sides when it comes to their position on women:
(don’t get me wrong, they’re all misogynists and wifebeaters, they just disagree on how to go about it)
1) Old-school white supremacists who are misogynist in the traditional way. They mainly hate women but sometimes get worked up about “Valkyrie shield maidens protecting the white race” and say nice things about them. They’re really into pro-natalism and “having lots of white babies”.
2) The “alt-lite” who’ve retreated from the naked anti-semitism of the core alt right since 2016. They also hate women, especially feminists, but are perfectly happy to have self-hating women on their side. Ann Coulter is an older example. Lauren Southern is a newer one. They’re not particularly pro-natalism, but they sometimes give it lip service.
3) The core alt right who hate women to a degree you can’t even imagine if you’re a normal person. Strongly influenced by linked hate movements like MRA and MGTOW, they even hate the whacko white Nazi women who agree with them. Any woman speaking up publicly is supposed to get bullied off the internet immediately. Tara McCarthy didn’t really understand that—maybe she thought they were kidding—but they weren’t, so now she’s paying the price and they’ve turned on her.
A lot of people are pointing out that the core alt right hate women to such a degree that their movement isn’t going to last very long, because any group in the history of the world needs women and kids to last beyond one generation. The core alt right answer with a magical thinking argument called “white Sharia”, essentially arguing that once they win, they’ll enslave all women and keep them in cages anyway. I’m not being hyperbolic. They actually say this.
This post just got reblogged by a bunch of TERFs so I thought I’d take this opportunity to talk to them if they check the notes. Every time I say misogyny in this post I’m including transmisogyny, when I say women I also mean trans women, whenever I say “the female body” I also mean trans women’s female bodies. And I’m not doing that to look cool because I don’t give a shit about looking cool, it’s just the objectively right thing to do. If you’re a young TERF who got sucked into it out of a contrarian impulse, you’ve been conned. You’re getting into a deadend ideology based on hate with frightening parallels to the alt right. The alt right agrees with you all about trans women, they even draw points for their arguments from your lying campaigns about trans women. You are effectively their allies. Don’t waste the energy of some of the best years of your life on such a reactionary, archaic, hateful, stupid, evil bullshit pointless cult. Get. Out.
@ solacekames a bunch of “TERFs” reblogged your initial post because it sums up very nicely why radical feminism is diametrically opposed to fascism. Most “TERFs” realise that Nazis and similar scum also hate trans everybody and anyone who is under the LGBTQ umbrella, so I don’t think you’re going to get any radical feminists saying that alt right has a reasonable platform.
So let me get this straight. If Radical Feminists don’t embrace trans identified males, many of whom are Nazis, they are the allies of the alt right who hate women? Cool story, bro.
Transactivists turned me into a terf. Get back to us about how pointless and evil terfs are when you hit peak trans a couple of times.
A shadowy cabale composed of a tiny percentage of the population manipulates us behind the scenes. They are against nature, against the natural order of things. Their ultimate goal is to destroy us from the inside. They have many duped sympathizers, but only a select few are smart enough to see through their lies, and will ultimately be proven right once this unnatural enemy is exterminated and society will be cleansed from their contamination…
Do you see how you sound EXACTLY like the alt right? Your obsession with bathrooms is right up their alley too. You even have a version of “the red pill” with “peak trans”.
I’m
honestly really uncomfortable with all the pressure put on service
industry workers by people in queer circles to use gender neutral
language when interfacing with customers. Like, using gendered terms of
respect (sir, ma'am, etc.) is a part of our job; we’re expected to use
language that indicates our class position, and gendered terms of
respect (including their plurals, ladies, gentleman, etc.) is part of
how it is expected that we do that. If we don’t do that, we come across
as rude, we don’t receive as many tips, we risk losing a customer
interaction, in which the customer has all the power over us
economically, not only by not tipping, but by bringing complaints to our
managers and undermining our job security. This is the shit people
don’t get about working in service. I can’t just walk into your desk job
(provided it’s not a service desk job such as customer service, etc.)
and start complaining to your boss about your performance and get you
fired. And you’re not expected to treat every asshat who walks in with
absolute servility and deference.
Yes, getting misgendered
sucks, but the reason this is even an issue, the reason that service
industry workers are such a visible target of anti-misgendering
activism, is because people feel entitled to demand anything from us no
matter what, because that’s how the customer-server dynamic works. I’m
not saying that you EVER don’t have the right to demand to be gendered
properly. I’m not talking about individual efforts to get your gender
respected. I’m talking about these campaigns of card handouts explaining
gender theory to baristas, I’m talking about these posts going around
on the internet loudly telling services workers they need to educate
themselves, and lamenting the fact that everyone at McDonalds and
Starbucks hasn’t gone through college level safe space training
programs…
Like, I’m one of those college-educated safe space
training program coordinators. I’m also a trans woman. And I myself have
been witness to the coercive nature of gender dynamics in the workplace
in all sorts of ways. YES there are workarounds, yes they are
substitutes, but they’re often awkward, hard to get used to, hard to
implement, and often are received poorly by our customers. It’s a lot of
fucking work to do all that, to be constantly thinking about that ON
TOP OF all the other shit we have to think about when interacting with
customers (do you know just how difficult it is to memorize an entire
menu? Especially for someone with multiple learning disabilities such as
myself)?
I once got lectured in my store by an English
professor from a very prestigious DC university because I called them
“sir”. They told me they’re trying to be a professor outside the
classroom (where they teach queer lit theory) as well, and teach service
workers the proper way to address strangers when they don’t know their
pronouns. They told me, “it’s important to ask people their pronouns and
not assume! For example, I go by ‘they’, and you go buy…” I
responded, I go by ‘she’. He smiled in the most condescending way (this
whole lecture was condescending as fuck) and told me, “See?” Like, wow,
not only are you condescending and telling me shit that I’ve literally
been trained to educate people about, you’re also actively distancing me
from my womanhood now by basically saying “See? No one could have ever
guessed that you go by she! You don’t look anything like a she!” Fuck
off.
As a trans woman in the service industry, I PROMISE you I
get misgendered by my customers a THOUSAND times more than I ever
misgender them. Being misgendered by a trans person isn’t any less
shitty, but it IS less shitty than being misgendered all. fucking. day.
Like, believe me, I do my absolute and 100% best to avoid misgendering
my customers. I really do. But here’s the bottom line: The reason people
feel so entitled to these campaigns criticizing service workers, the
reasons you feel entitled to demand this respect from us (which is
respect that is yours to demand, in any situation, of course) more
readily than you are of say, your doctor, or your neighbors, is because
of the nature of service work. It’s because you see yourself as our
boss-by-proxy.
I see more posts going around about the need to
educate service workers than I do about the need to educate doctors
about trans issues. And that’s fucked up, weird, and it says something
about people’s expectations from others based on class position and
profession.
Hi ho, agender cashier here!
I go by they, and mistdam/Mx. is great, but have you ever called a random person mistdam or Mx? Most people don’t know what the fuck you’re saying. I’ve been called rude and been told I have a bad attitude, and been called stupid when I try to explain. So yeah, normalizing gender neutral terms is fabulous. But I’m too desperate for my $8 an hour to risk it.
Yeah exactly. It’s part of this liberal attitude where they think simply saying things or saying things a certain way actually changes them (see item: “makeup is gender neutral!”).
That’s not how this works. Gender is still real and coercive and it’s coercive effects on those of us working in service are very felt.
If a service worker misgenders you, all you need to say is, ‘yeah,
I’d like a latte, and also the “miss” isn’t necessary’. I promise they
will be falling all over themselves to apologize and move the fuck on,
because they’re trying to save the interaction now that you’ve voiced
your discomfort. You don’t have that power in other situations with
non-service workers and I actually encourage you to use it, but
recognize where that power comes from. We don’t mind being corrected,
it’s part of our job. But going home and ranting on facebook about the
ignorance of service workers isn’t the solution, I promise.
And people have asked me about educating service workers when it’s situationally appropriate. And like, I want to say that if we’re not busy we’ll listen to your schtick and a lot of us will probably learn something. But I think my friend put this really well:
Imo
i don’t think any constructive conversation abt important shit can ever
really happen when one of the participants is essentially being coerced
into it and required to show subservience/“respect”
[and] even
if a productive conversation could happen, that conversation is p much
meaningless unless you are changing the structural and material
conditions behind the whole mess. The conversation itself does fuckall.
At its best this is liberal faux-activism and at its worst rly
condescending to trans proles [proletariat workers] who are being coerced into listening to
you
So yeah, assuming our need for education is also a condescending attitude, and not recognizing the dynamics at play is really a problem. Just correct us when we misgender you and move on, and fight for actual structural changes that help service workers and trans folx have autonomy and self determination.
