you ever see a 5 paragraphs post that starts like “im allowed to give my cis opinion on trans-specific discourse because my brother is trans” and know you dont have to keep reading
No offense but cis people shouldn’t get a say in this truscum/tucute stuff. Cis people shouldn’t be transmeds. They shouldn’t even be tucutes. They have no say in what we, as trans people, experience.
“#fyi I’m a tucute”
That explains it
I’m sorry that I don’t think cis people should take sides in this kind of subject bc they’ve never experienced what it’s like to be trans? What gives them the right to have a voice in this debate? ://
I should start IDing as trans just to shut these people up is2g
But let me break this down for you; humans have something called empathy where they can learn and understand the feelings and experiences of those around them without directly experiencing it themselves.
On the other hand, people who ID as trans don’t always know a lot about the condition. Why should they get a say if they don’t know half of the information behind the issue?
So cis people who educate themselves are arguably more worthy of a voice than ignorant trans folk.
Actually what you’re describing is sympathy, not empathy. Empathy is when you feel the same things another person feels.
A trans person can feel empathy for another trans person’s experiences.
A cis person can feel sympathy for a trans person’s experiences.
Because
Cis people cannot experience the same things that trans people do.
You literally just… ignored the actual point. Formulate a reply instead of a grammar lesson next time. Would you prefer I stated my argument in French?
Not only did your transphobic ass contemplate identifying as trans just to “shut these people up”, thusly turning yourself into a “”transtrender””, you also called being trans a “condition”. It is NOT a condition.
So really, you’re the one who needs to educate yourself. You cannot understand our feelings and emotions about our gender. You can only be a transphobic douche.
I have a feeling defining the word ‘joke’ would be a waste of time. You still didn’t address the point.
Tu es très retard. Which means you’re slow.
Yeah you just called me a r*tard which is a goddamn slur.
I don’t think saying a word in another language that is a slur in English counts, lmao. Like, people see negro as a slur, wich means black in spanish. Spanish ppl can’t say negro anymore because when you’re English it’s a slur sorry :///
Buddy “tu es très retard” means “you are very slow” in French. “Retard” means “slow” in a ton of languages hun
Hun, it’s still ableist even then. Where do you think English stole the goddamn slur??
“retard” in french is a noun that means “delay”, “lateness” not an adjective lmao. you cannot say “t’es très retard”, itd mean (literally) “youre very delay”. you could say “t’es (très) r*tardé.e” (you’re (very) r*tarded) wich would still be calling someone a slur since r*tardé.e is also a slur in french. im gonna repeat myself cause i think its important: the phrase “tu es très r*tard” is literal gibberish. its meaningless. since it cannot be understood in french alone it becomes clear as day that they meant the english slur and NOT a french non-slur equivalent, and they obviously dont know enough french to be given the benefit of the doubt anyway since they used a noun in the place of an adjective.
also good job to the people who didnt question the meaning of the sentence that contains an obvious slur & just assumed that r*tard isnt actually a slur in this context (i hope ive made it clear enough that it fucking is). futhermore, if you dont see the problem with calling someone a slur in a language (you assume) they cant understand because you disagree with them then you should just admit youre bigoted and stop talking.BONJOUR MES CHERI.E.S ET LES PTITS SACS A MERDE DE TRUSCUMS
i confirm, that sack of shit meant to use the word as an insult, regardless of what the word means in french (=delay, yes).
that cisplaining piece of trash indeed fucking meant to call op the r slur, under the weak lie of “ahah just another language”.
@to-catch-a-trender (spanish ppl who aren’t assholes use alternative to “n*gro”, btw, like saying “de color” instead of using the word on people, and we don’t fucking use the word existing in spanish to call ppl that when we’re among anglophonic ppl, but nice racist reach. and since you certainly aren’t fucking spanish, keep that word out of your mouth anyway.) @kingsnackcrackers @truscum-bun venez donc continuer à soutenir cette faible défense d’un terme déhumanisant par excellence, raclures. je sais, il est si facile de jouer les petit.e.s rigolo.te.s quand on prétend savoir tout mieux que les autres, et qu’on base toute sa merdique petite vie sur un mensonge de planqué.e, mais c’est foutu, mes mignonn.e.s, vous êtes pas assez subtil.e.s.
there is also a history of the word being used as a “politically” correct way to say “attardé.e” (=“retard” in english) in many contexts among child carers. look out for that.
and you just don’t fucking call people “slow” anyway. that’s rude af and also ableist. because being slow is literally what autistic ppl and ppl with adhd are because we take longer to process new info. which is not the result of willfull ignorance, unlike some forms of stupidity, like FUCKING OPENING YOUR CIS MOUTH ON TRANS MATTERS.
and rlly, other highlight of the thread: “I should start IDing as trans just to shut these people up is2g” like. LIKE. REALLY. LIKE. YOU DONT SEE THE ISSUE HERE. LITERALLY ADMITTING TO BE TEMPTED TO FAKE YOUR IDENTITY FOR DISCOURSE POINTS AND TO HIDE YOUR FUCKING PRIVILEGE. BUT FUCKING DIE, WOULD YOU ???????
No offense but cis people shouldn’t get a say in this truscum/tucute stuff. Cis people shouldn’t be transmeds. They shouldn’t even be tucutes. They have no say in what we, as trans people, experience.
“#fyi I’m a tucute”
That explains it
I’m sorry that I don’t think cis people should take sides in this kind of subject bc they’ve never experienced what it’s like to be trans? What gives them the right to have a voice in this debate? ://
I should start IDing as trans just to shut these people up is2g
But let me break this down for you; humans have something called empathy where they can learn and understand the feelings and experiences of those around them without directly experiencing it themselves.
On the other hand, people who ID as trans don’t always know a lot about the condition. Why should they get a say if they don’t know half of the information behind the issue?
So cis people who educate themselves are arguably more worthy of a voice than ignorant trans folk.
Actually what you’re describing is sympathy, not empathy. Empathy is when you feel the same things another person feels.
A trans person can feel empathy for another trans person’s experiences.
A cis person can feel sympathy for a trans person’s experiences.
Because
Cis people cannot experience the same things that trans people do.
You literally just… ignored the actual point. Formulate a reply instead of a grammar lesson next time. Would you prefer I stated my argument in French?
Not only did your transphobic ass contemplate identifying as trans just to “shut these people up”, thusly turning yourself into a “”transtrender””, you also called being trans a “condition”. It is NOT a condition.
So really, you’re the one who needs to educate yourself. You cannot understand our feelings and emotions about our gender. You can only be a transphobic douche.
I have a feeling defining the word ‘joke’ would be a waste of time. You still didn’t address the point.
Tu es très retard. Which means you’re slow.
Yeah you just called me a r*tard which is a goddamn slur.
I don’t think saying a word in another language that is a slur in English counts, lmao. Like, people see negro as a slur, wich means black in spanish. Spanish ppl can’t say negro anymore because when you’re English it’s a slur sorry :///
Buddy “tu es très retard” means “you are very slow” in French. “Retard” means “slow” in a ton of languages hun
Hun, it’s still ableist even then. Where do you think English stole the goddamn slur??
“retard” in french is a noun that means “delay”, “lateness” not an adjective lmao. you cannot say “t’es très retard”, itd mean (literally) “youre very delay”. you could say “t’es (très) r*tardé.e” (you’re (very) r*tarded) wich would still be calling someone a slur since r*tardé.e is also a slur in french. im gonna repeat myself cause i think its important: the phrase “tu es très r*tard” is literal gibberish. its meaningless. since it cannot be understood in french alone it becomes clear as day that they meant the english slur and NOT a french non-slur equivalent, and they obviously dont know enough french to be given the benefit of the doubt anyway since they used a noun in the place of an adjective.
also good job to the people who didnt question the meaning of the sentence that contains an obvious slur & just assumed that r*tard isnt actually a slur in this context (i hope ive made it clear enough that it fucking is). futhermore, if you dont see the problem with calling someone a slur in a language (you assume) they cant understand because you disagree with them then you should just admit youre bigoted and stop talking.
while i dont think its fair comparing trans people to their oppressors, i still think its useful in discourse to underline the similarities between trans/med rethoric & terf rethoric.
the way i reconcile both ideas is that while transphobia is central to terf ideology, being trans isnt to trans/med ideology. i do think saying to a trans trans/med “you sound just like a terf” isnt appropriate, but it really comes down to wording.
i also dont think its fair saying or implying that trans men are the main target of terfs and so that drawing links between the two in any way is Problematic. terfs are transphobic and so they are harmful to trans men because they are trans, not because they are trans men. on the other hand, theyre more dangerous to trans women as theyre both targeted for being trans and for being trans women specifically. we need to acknowledge terfs see trans men as “lost womyn” and so while it is infantilizing, transphobic and damaging, trans men arent victims of the rethoric trans/meds have in common with terfs (or else they wouldnt share it in the first place)
(the main concern of trans/meds seems to be trans men & so im assuming trans men make up most of trans/meds or are at least who trans/medicalism is meant to represent aside from “all trans people”.)