Ok so I’m in the process of doing a sort of ‘masterpost’ on pansexuality (what it is, how it’s different from bi and maybe other multisexualities/romantism) and I’m gathering a lot of ressource right now so if anyone has something to share on their experience, on why they choose to label as ‘pan’ (over another label or as pan and others labels) or wanted to correct a mistake that they frequently see and that makes them want to throw a book by the window, feel free to message me. This message is intended for pansexuals and panromantics but also any mogai person who chose another label over pan-. Every input is appreciated! And if you saw a post on the subject that you find really great or that it helped you understand pansexuality/romantism you’re also very much welcome to send me a link to it!

I’m so confused

kingoftrans:

legaliselarrylove:

Because I just read a post on the difference between bisexuality and pansexuality, and I’m confused??? Like… Bisexual people /don’t/ get attracted to trans men and women, but discriminating against trans men and women by putting them in that category and not calling them real men and women which they actually are is transphobic and discriminatory????? Can someone help me out pls

Someone gave you the wrong definitions! Bisexuality is when you’re attracted to two or more genders. Usually this means men and women (both cis and trans), but many bisexual people are attracted to nonbinary genders too. Pansexuality is when you’re attracted to all genders, which means men and women (cis and trans) and all nonbinary genders.

I couldn’t have said it better. I can link you to a post that goes more in depth if you want. I also wrote something about it once if you’re interested.

  Anonymous: can you explain what pansexuality is?

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To me, pansexuality is the attraction to all genders, regardless of genitals. “pan” means ‘all’ in greek. It is essentially choosing your partner based on personality, rather than one specific gender.

It is different from being bisexual as bi (as far as i’m aware) is the attraction to your own gender and one other.

SIDE NOTE: Some pansexual people use the label bisexual as an umbrella term as it is a bigger and generally more publicly known sexuality. This is an individuals choice, however.

Google definition (for clarity): pansexual-not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity.

i hoped this helped, anon!

ASK ME ANYTHING!

-Val

I’d like to add more information. Pan- is most commonly defined as “attracted to all genders”, if the attraction is regardless of gender is up to the person. (I believe using ‘genitals’ in this context is transphobic but I’m not 100% sure)
Now, the two most ofently used definitions for bi- are “attracted to two or more genders” and “attracted to the same gender and other genders”. I’m not bisexual myself so it’s based on what I’ve read from actual biromantics and/or sexuals.
Though bi- is used as a way of describing a pan-’s orientation without furhter explanation, the most used umbrella term is “multisexual/romantic” as opposed to “monosexual/romantic”. Multisexuality and/or romantism includes bi- and pan- as well as poly-, omni- and much more I’m not currently aware of. I must admit that I’m not entirely sure of the definition of omni- so I won’t talk about it but I know that poly- is the attraction to multiple genders.
I hope this doesn’t come out as rude or anything, I just wanted to politely add more info on my sexual orientation and the other multisexualities! :)

Margot “Le fait de voir que l’on n’est pas seul fait réellement du bien“

bietpanvisibles:

Bonjour à tous

Je ne vais pas être très originale, et parler de ma propre expérience de pansexuelle/bisexuelle, tout simplement car je ne fréquente pas (à ma connaissance) de non-hétéros, ce qui ne me permet pas trop de parler d’une expérience globale. J’ai 18 ans, et pas vraiment « out-ée »…

C’est étrange car je n’ai pleinement pris conscience de ma non-hétérosexualité que cette année. J’ai au cours de ma vie déjà eu des attirances envers des filles, ce qui m’a même à plusieurs reprises fait m’interroger très brièvement sur mon orientation sexuelle, mais ce n’est pas allé plus loin. Je ne sais pas trop expliquer le phénomène, c’est un peu comme si au final « je ne m’était pas vraiment posé la question », les quelques interrogations que j’avais étant vite balayées par d’autres pensées, mais je pense pouvoir dire qu’au fond, je le savais pertinemment.

Cela tient peut-être au fait que j’ai eu la chance de grandir avec deux parents que je sais ouverts à la question (ma mère fait partie des femmes qui rêvent d’avoir un ami gay !), et que donc les questions LGBT n’ont jamais posé un problème, ce qui fait que j’ai vécu mon orientation très naturellement. Je ne suis de plus sortie qu’avec des garçons.

C’est donc en ce début d’année que, sans crier gare, je me suis enfin vraiment dit que tout ça n’était pas très cohérent. Que vu que je peux être attirées par des filles, et vouloir construire une relation avec elles, je ne suis visiblement pas hétérosexuelle. Cependant, je ne suis clairement pas lesbienne non plus, car également attirée par les hommes. Et en y réfléchissant plus sérieusement, potentiellement les personnes intersexuées, transgenre, non-binaires,… aussi. J’avais un gros problème, je ne rentrais pas dans les cases.

J’ai donc voulu éclaircir un peu la question, et effectué quelques recherches. Dans un premier temps, le terme bisexuelle me faisait peur. Mais vraiment ! Pour moi, il était trop connoté nymphomane, effet de mode et « le cul entre deux chaises ». Et puis le préfixe « bi » me dérangeait, car excluant.

Je suis alors tombée sur la définition de la pansexualité. Et je me suis dit « mais c’est bien-sûr ! », je suis pansexuelle ! Vous ne pouvez pas imaginer le soulagement ce jour-là, j’étais quelque-chose. C’est complètement idiot, ce ne sont pas les mots qui doivent nous définir, mais alors que je venais de bousculer mes repères, il m’était indispensable d’en trouver de nouveaux.

J’ai alors pas mal lu de forums (notamment bisexualite.info, si je peux leur faire de la pub), et des articles en anglais sur la pansexualité. Au fur et à mesure que je découvrais cette communauté, je me suis sentie de plus en plus à l’aise avec mon orientation sexuelle. Car si je n’ai personnellement jamais ressenti de honte par rapport à mon orientation, jusqu’alors je ne savais même pas qu’elle existait ! Le fait de voir que l’on n’est pas seul fait réellement du bien.

Je suis devenue plus au courant des questions LGBT (j’y étais déjà sensible, notamment les problématiques auxquelles font face personnes intersexuées grâce à l’excellent livre Le chœur des femmes de Martin Winckler, que ma mère m’a prêté et que j’ai lu il y a quelques années), et eu un regard un peu plus militant sur le sujet.

Tout ce travail de documentation et de recherche a dégagé une constante : la bisexualité est invisible, ou alors très facilement dénigrée. Ça m’a incité à me rabibocher avec le terme, qui s’avère beaucoup plus connu que la pansexualité, mais aussi car beaucoup de bisexuel(le)s ne se limitent pas à la binarité homme/femme.

J’ai cependant été réellement choquée de voir que s’il y a une parfois une certaine biphobie de la part d’hétéros, il y en avait aussi énormément au sein de la communauté gay et lesbienne. Nombreux sont ceux déclarant qu’ils ne sortiront jamais avec un(e) bi(e), ou carrément ouvertement hostiles.

Je me suis alors dit qu’il était nécessaire de faire quelque chose pour que progressivement les mentalités évoluent. Et que l’idéal serait de se rendre visibles. Que si les gens connaissent des bi(es), ils sauront que non, nous ne sautons pas sur tout ce qui bouge, nous ne sommes pas infidèles (du moins, pas plus que les hétéros), ou indécis, mais surtout, que nous EXISTONS. Peu de gens arrivent à concevoir qu’il est possible de s’intéresser à quelqu’un quel que soit son genre. « Nan mais tu as forcément une préférence ! ». Oui, par phases, même si j’ai globalement tendance à préférer les femmes (ce qu’il s’est clairement amplifié depuis que j’ai pris conscience de ma bisexualité, je crois que quelque chose s’est « débloqué »). Mais ce ne va pas plus loin que si je disais préférer les bruns ! Ça n’exclurait pas que je puisse très bien tomber amoureuse d’un blond ou d’un roux. Et bien là c’est pareil, pour moi le genre ne compte pas plus qu’une couleur de cheveux.

Arrivé à ce point, j’avais besoin d’en parler à quelqu’un, c’est pourquoi j’ai fait mon coming-out auprès de ma mère. Ça s’est évidemment très bien passé, mais je le savais d’avance, à défaut d’un ami gay, elle a une fille bisexuelle ! Une phrase m’a particulièrement amusée : « En fait ce ne me surprend pas, je veux dire ça te correspond ». Ben oui, évidemment, ce n’est pas nouveau, ça a toujours fait partie de moi !

C’est pour l’instant la seule personne au courant, avec une ancienne camarade de classe qui m’a croisée dans le train alors que je revenais de la marche des fiertés cet été. Mais je profite de cette journée pour faire un pas en avant vers la visibilité, surtout si je décide de publier ce texte sur les réseaux sociaux. Ce n’est pas facile pour moi, car jeune étudiante en médecine, j’espère bien faire carrière, et j’ai réellement peur de me faire discriminer si cela vient à trop se savoir. L’éternel dilemme entre militantisme et confort du placard…

En parlant de la marche des fiertés, je pense que pour ceux qui commencent seulement à apprivoiser leur orientation, ça peut être super. Voir des non-hétéros s’assumer m’a réellement fait du bien, et profondément émue (j’ai même versé ma petite larme… c’est dire !). Par contre j’ai fait l’erreur d’y aller seule, et n’aimant pas la musique électro et danser, je ne m’y suis pas sentie pleinement à ma place. C’est d’ailleurs avec ce mélange d’émotions contradictoires que j’ai aperçu Cordélia, qui a reconnu mon drapeau, mais j’étais beaucoup trop timide et pas dans le bon état d’esprit pour aller l’aborder (elle a même dû me trouver un peu bizarre… si elle s’en souvient, je vais voir si elle confirme ahah).

Cependant, je crois que ça m’a vraiment permis de m’affirmer pleinement en tant que bisexuelle, alors je recommande pleinement !

Maintenant, je commence la fac, et je porte en permanence un bracelet fait maison du drapeau de la bisexualité. C’est le coming-out facile et sélectif, car seules les personnes LGBT ou un minimum friendly peuvent avoir une chance de le reconnaître. La transition entre le placard fermé à clef et celui grand ouvert est progressive, ce bracelet est ma première étape ! Car si pour l’instant personne ne l’a remarqué, psychologiquement le fait de porter un signe distinctif n’est pas anodin.

Donc si j’ai écrit ce petit texte, c’est car j’espère que ça pourra aider des jeunes en plein questionnement, en voyant qu’ils ne sont pas seuls, notamment s’ils ont un entourage LGBT-phobe. A mon avis, plus il y a de personnes qui se rendent visibles, moins nous serons marginalisés…

Voili voilou… je vous souhaite à tous une excellente journée internationale de la bisexualité !

bisexualbaker:

Trying to come up with a cute name for the non-monosexual creativity community. One problem I’m having is that I want it to be inclusive of other non-monosexual identities, since I don’t know if anyone pan or polysexual/polyromantic is planning anything similar yet (or already has something similar established). Since we have a lot in common, I don’t want them to feel erased or excluded from the community, so that’s taking some extra thinking. Here’s what I’ve considered so far, with commentary:

  • Bi Creative - Gets right to the point, but is pretty bi-specific, which (as mentioned above) I’m currently leaning away from. Can be kinda fun if you “mispronounce” bi as rhyming with bee, so it sounds like Be Creative, but I don’t think that’s quite enough?
  • Bi+ Creative/Bi Plus Creative - So this one is fun, because its like adding bi and creative, the plus can also be read as ‘bi positive’, and it also suggests that there’s more than just bi people involved. I don’t want to contribute to erasure, though, and saying “Bi and…” and then leaving the blank unfilled I’m pretty sure means I’m doing that. I mean, I’d definitely specify in headers and about sections, but is that enough?
  • More Than 2 Creative - Also good for puns, since it’s like “more than too creative”, but erases bi people who are only attracted to two genders. I really wish there were a quicker way to say “greater than or equal to” than, well, greater than or equal to, and I’m pretty sure that greaterthanorequal2creative is way too long for either Tumblr or Dreamwidth’s user name character limits, so that’s out.
  • MGA Creative - I like this one because MGA (multi-gender attracted) also seems like mega creative, which is definitely accurate, but I need to make sure that MGA is a term I can use. I’m a white person, and my brain is suggesting that MGA may be POC specific, but I have no idea (aside from making this post and/or asking people) how to find out if that’s the case; my Googling game is pretty sub-par these days. I know Same Gender Loving is POC specific, and I’m not entirely sure why I’m thinking MGA is, but that would be my major reason for leaning away from this one.
  • BPP Creative - As with Bi Creative, it gets right to the point, but is less bi-specific and explicitly references pan and polysexual/polyromantic folks right in the title. I still don’t want to erase anyone, though, so maybe I’ll use that plus here? BPP+ Creative? Hmm.

Thoughts and opinions welcome, though I think I’m leaning towards either Bi Plus, More Than 2, or BPP Plus (the last one’s most likely so far).

If your goal is to include every non-monosexuality then “poly” is the term you should base your name on, since polysexual is the umbrella term for that. So something like “Poly Creative”? Plus since poly means “many” it also tells about the different kinds of art (drawing, writing, crafting, etc) BPP creative is a great idea but it excludes omnisexuality and other orientations and like you said, adding a + is not going to stop erasure :/ I like the MGA Creative one too but you really need to make sure that it isn’t POC specific before using it.

syrasi:

Bisexuality is not transphobic. Defining bisexuality as attraction to only cis men and cis women is, however, extremely transphobic.

Pansexuality: what it really is

sexysextalks:

We want to write about pansexuality today to help anyone get a clear picture of what it is and how it is different from other sexualities.

 Many people confuse pansexuality, demisexuality, bisexuality, and polysexuality a lot and is understandable. Two of them are similar, two of them overlap in some ways, and three of them are relatively new formed sexualities. 

For all of you funny ones, pansexuality is not being attracted to pans, or for you Spanish speaking people, nor the attraction to bread. Many people have come up to ask me about pansexuality. Before explaining it, I ask them what they think it is. Most of them tell me they had heard a pansexual was a person that wasn’t attracted to anyone unless they had a strong romantic bond with the person, which is in fact wrong, that is demisexuality. 

Some people thought it was another word for bisexual just like homosexuals have other names such as gays, lesbians, queers, etc. which is also wrong. 

Someone who identifies as pansexual is someone who is attracted to any person regardless of their sex or gender identity. In Greek, the prefix “pan” means all.  Thus, pansexuality means all sexes/genders.  Pansexuality, like all other sexualities, has been around forever, but has only been recognized recently. 

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people-are-strxnge:

i’m so done with people saying bisexuality isn’t known, i’ve been knowing bisexuality since i was 9 years old, and i heard about it more than once a week ever since

pansexuality and asexuality is something i had to discover by myself on the internet when i was 18, because nobody knew what is was, or did just never told me it existed, and i felt broken for 18 years

Gay Community:  Bisexuals will never understand what it truly means to be oppressed!
Bisexuals:  *are rejected from the straight community*
Bisexuals:  *are rejected by the Lesbian and Gay community*
Bisexuals:  *have their sexuality undermined every time they talk about it*
Bisexuals:  *are told that their own definitions of their sexuality are wrong*
Bisexuals:  *are accused of being cheaters or disloyal*
Bisexuals:  *are accused of being inherently transphobic*
Bisexuals:  *are told they aren't welcome at Pride if they are in "het" relationships*
Bisexuals:  *are asked when they turned gay if they are in "gay" relationships*
Bisexuals:  *literally have the same slurs thrown at them and experience the same hatred from straight people as gay people do*
Gay Community:  Yep. All of that bisexual privilege.

badasszombiespinster:

moki-art:

me-is-abi:

Please can somebody fully explain pansexuality to me because although I accept anybody who identifies as pan, I don’t fully understand it. I get that it means there’s an attraction to girls, boys, trans girls and boys, nonbinary and everybody but to me that just sounds like bisexuality.. just one that says having an attraction to a trans boy should be different to having one to a cis boy. And with nonbinary, that person will still have male/female body parts. I don’t know. I just need a full blown explanation because I want to be able to fully understand those who identify as pansexual.

First thing first, saying that a transboy is different to a boy is transphobic. A transboy IS a boy (and transgrils are girls)

Now, I’m not bisexual but the usual definition that I see is “attracted to the same gender and different genders” (someone please tell me if i’m wrong here). It means that some bi are only attracted to the gender binary but that others can be attracted to neither boys nor girls.

Pansexuality can both be “attracted to all genders” (wich is me) AND “attracted regardless of gender” (wich still includes everyone). Both definition are correct and still different to bisexuality.

I hope it’s clear, you just have to ask if you want me to explain a little more ^^’

I think you’re pretty accurate with bisexuality but I certainly don’t know many who are purely attracted to those who fit the gender binary. I feel like a more accurate description of bisexuality is “appreciates aspects of androsexuality and gynesexuality” as in appreciating aspects of femininity and masculinity. I imagine most bisexuals would be fine with dating/could be attracted to a intersex, non-binary, gender fluid, etc, person and be perfectly okay with it. I think its just that bisexuality appreciates the aspects of the two genders differently to how pansexuality feels? Like most pansexuals (as far as I know) are gender blind/ attracted regardless of gender/ attracted to all genders, whereas bisexuals have more of an interest in gender aspects? Its really hard to try and explain like, I identify as bisexual and not pansexual though I would date an intersex, genderfluid, non-binary, etc person if I was attracted to them, as much as I would anyone else on the gender spectrum (cisgender girl, transgender girl, cisgender boy, transgender boy, etc) but I do appreciate feminine traits and masculine traits as aspects? I guess I could be pansexual but I find this is true with most bisexuals, even though we’re often accused of being transphobic :) 


You have a great explanation though and I think tbh its kinda a hard job to explain the differences between bisexuality and pansexuality so props to you! :D

Thank you for correcting me! Since I don’t know any bisexuals I couldn’t tell more than what I’ve saw on Tumblr, your input is really appreciated! I think you perfectly got pansexuality so congrats on that! ^^

me-is-abi:

Please can somebody fully explain pansexuality to me because although I accept anybody who identifies as pan, I don’t fully understand it. I get that it means there’s an attraction to girls, boys, trans girls and boys, nonbinary and everybody but to me that just sounds like bisexuality.. just one that says having an attraction to a trans boy should be different to having one to a cis boy. And with nonbinary, that person will still have male/female body parts. I don’t know. I just need a full blown explanation because I want to be able to fully understand those who identify as pansexual.

First thing first, saying that a transboy is different to a boy is transphobic. A transboy IS a boy (and transgrils are girls)

Now, I’m not bisexual but the usual definition that I see is “attracted to the same gender and different genders” (someone please tell me if i’m wrong here). It means that some bi are only attracted to the gender binary but that others can be attracted to neither boys nor girls.

Pansexuality can both be “attracted to all genders” (wich is me) AND “attracted regardless of gender” (wich still includes everyone). Both definition are correct and still different to bisexuality.

I hope it’s clear, you just have to ask if you want me to explain a little more ^^’

badasszombiespinster:
“THIS. ANNOYS ME. SO MUCH. THAT THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED RESPONSE. ON GOOGLE.
Bisexuality does not instantly equal binary. It does not mean we are solely attracted to cisgender men and women. Bisexuality does not mean we are...

 badasszombiespinster:

THIS. ANNOYS ME. SO MUCH. THAT THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED RESPONSE. ON GOOGLE.

Bisexuality does not instantly equal binary. It does not mean we are solely attracted to cisgender men and women. Bisexuality does not mean we are transphobic or avoid relationships with intersex, genderqueer, transgender, dual gender, etc

I find a lot of people saying “pansexuality is more spiritual and we don’t care about genitalia like SOME people” NO. NO. Being bisexual does not equal “I love genitalia more then someone’s personality” I have every respect for pansexual people, and there are plenty of pansexual people and their supporters who don’t think like this, but those that do REALLY FUCKING BUG ME.

THIS IS NOT THE DIFFERENCE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ISN’T “ONE IS BINARY AND PHOBIC OF OTHER GENDERS AND THE OTHER IS ALL ACCEPTING AND LOVING AND SHIT”.
If you ask my opinion as someone who has identified as bisexual for quite a while now there are two points to this argument:

1. stop fucking making a big deal out of how someone labels themselves. If they’re asking for your help fine. But if they want to be labelled as bisexual, pansexual, demisexual, asexual, lithosexual, demiromantic, aromatic, biromantic, panromantic, lithoromantic whatever they freaking want, ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB TO LABEL THEM DIFFERENTLY OR QUESTION THEM ON IT. THEY DON’t HAVE TO ENTERTAIN YOUR IDEA OF WHAT THEY SHOULD AND SHOULDN’T BE.

2. Now while I can’t speak for anyone, I think for me the difference between bisexual isn’t the bullshit above, but rather that pansexuals are ‘genderblind’ as in in gender doesn’t really freaking matter to them, whereas bisexuals enjoy aspects of femininity and masculinity, not necessarily just in cisgender men and women, but it doesn’t mean that they’re inherently against anything that isn’t defined under masculinity or femininity. Essentially, like a combination of gynesexuality and androsexuality NOT A FUCKING BINARY CODE THAT MAKES THEM INHERENTLY AGAINST OTHER GENDERS OUTSIDE OF CIS OKAY?!

Now can we all stop fucking throwing a fit over this and go home and accept people for who they are rather then labelling them and pointing fingers!?

Pansexuality isn’t only “genderblind”. It’s true for a part of the community but I personnaly ID with the “attracted to all genders” def.

Otherwise all of you’re saying is so true that I’m worried some people still thinks like that.

(c)