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Anonymous: Hey I just read a snapchat newsfeed about bisexuality and pansexuality being kinda partially the same thing. What do you think about that? Are they the same thing? I'm asking because I'm confused AF right now 😅
Heya. So, I get it. I get why people don’t understand the difference because at first, it does sound the same.
Bisexuality: being attracted to both the male and female gender
Pansexuality: being attracted to people regardless of their gender.
You might say that’s the same, right? But pansexuality is different because there’s also an attraction to people who identify as androgynous, transsexual etc.
Some people who consider themselves bisexual aren’t unable to fall for someone who identifies as androgynous, trans, etc, though, which might make things more difficult. But with bisexuality, there’s mostly a preference or difference between falling for one of the many genders (imo gender is a scale and male and female are either ends of the scale). I identify as bisexual but am able to get attracted to androgynous/trans/etc people. Does that make me pansexual? That is a tough question because the difference isn’t always clear. I think it’s way more about yourself and the way you identify than about the difference between pansexual and bisexual.
So there is, in fact, a difference, and I think there should be. Saying there’s no difference is literally telling people that the image they have of themselves is wrong, doesn’t exist, and that they should identify as something they don’t feel like.
i have a few problems with your answer, im not bi so i dont wanna talk over your experience of your orientation but im pan & nb/trans so i can speak for those parts. i know some pan people (myself included) prefer the “attracted to all genders” definition to the “regardless of” one because that’s what the root pan means (all) and pan peeps can have preferences. also im guessing that by androgyne you meant non binary people? androgyne is a non binary gender but not the only one. honestly those are small nitpicks so it’s whatever. you also used “transsexual”, trans actually stands for transgender (though older trans people tend to use it, you can’t force the term on others without their immediate permition). its also a question of terminology but that word can make some trans peeps unconfortable. now i do have a bigger problem with the breakdown of the genders. you seperated man & woman from trans wich is transphobic. a transman is a man and a transwoman is a woman in the same way that a cisman is a man and a ciswoman a woman. so all bi peeps can be attracted to trans peeps (unless theyre transphobic). im not saying you yourself are but the way you phrased things is. i dont mean to sound rude, i just wanted to let you know so you’re aware of those few things in the future!
please help:
i noticed that many bisexual people prefer ‘attraction to two or more genders’ as the definition of bisexuality rather than ‘attraction to two genders’.
but isn’t 'attraction to two or more genders’ the definition for polysexuality?there has been so much hate lately and i really don’t want to offend anyone but i don’t understand the bi/poly/pan discourse. what is the problem with/why can’t we use 'attraction to two genders’ as the definition of bisexuality?
im neither bi nor ply so idk how big of an help i can be?
from what ive read the bi definition is not defined as “attracted to 2 genders” anymore because bi people can be attracted to enbies and then what counts as a gender? do they have to be attracted to one (1) nb gender and thats it? or does the non binary umbrella count as one gender? so “two or more” is way more useful & practical (without taking into account bi peeps who are attracted to all genders who wouldn’t fit the other definition) theres also the “attracted to both genders” definition that sorta went with it, wich completely erases nb identities and is super outdated.
ply is defined as the attraction to multiple genders, it is very close to bi’s def but both terms are still needed. i cant really speak for the differences between the two terms as i dont identify as either and dont havent read much bi vs ply type of post, but i can guess that the reason to id as one term over the other would be close to those in the bi vs pan sort of thing? with the history behind bi, the visibility it gives, and ply being newer, and inherently acknowledgeing nb identities.
i hope that was helpful! please do value bi & ply peeps input on this over mine if you get any, this is only what i’ve gathered from what i’ve read over the years :)
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lol full offense but stop policing how frequently bisexuals date either genders. just cause i’ve dated 5 girls back to back doesn’t make me a lesbian, just like another bisexual woman who has dated 5 men back to back doesn’t make her straight. being bisexual means the person has the potential to be attracted to more than one gender and that’s it. what they do with it is their business so just let us live for crying out loud let us live.
“ 5 girls back to back doesn’t make me a lesbian “
Kinda makes it likely that you are more into girls than guys tho’.
Guys are much more available as partners for women unless they are quite unattractive.
But let’s imagine it was exactly equal that you would select a girl or a guy - that their sex genuinely was irrelevant, and that there was no difference in availability.
I’m rusty at maths, but from memory, the chance it’s coincidence is
(1/(2^5)) *100%
= (1/32) *100%
= 0.03125 *100%
=3.125%
Feel free to correct my maths - it’s been about 35 years now since i did probability.
But if i was a betting man - i’m going to say my money is going to be on a woman for your next partner.
Maybe you are a lesbian, and maybe dudes need to know that so they don’t get hurt? Just a thought.hoooooomygodddhooomyygodddhoooooooomygodddlmaaaaaaooooooooooooooooo
Why are straight people so fucking extra?
Serious question
What is pansexuality?
And how is it different from bisexuality?
Can anyone help an ignoramus?
I’m pan so I may be wrong on some things about the other orientations, someone correct me if thats the case!
The mostly used definitions I’ve seen are, bi is attracted to 2 or more genders & pan is to all.
Bi people can be attracted to enbies and pan people can have preferences, though some don’t and that’s ok. What’s not ok though is to use the term “genderblind” as it erases one’s gender identity, wich can be very important to some.
Theres some overlap between the terms but not a problem, its ok to id as bi if youre attracted to all genders, and its ok to id as both!
Theres also more multisexualities/romantism, like poly- or omni-, though they’re less well-known. I’m not sure of the omni- definition but I know that poly- is “attracted to multiple genders/3+ genders”.
Like with pan/bi, its ok to id as more than one of those, as there’s a lot of overlap!
I hope it was helpful! Feel free to ask if some stuff still isn’t clear :)
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You think bisexuals who end up with the opposite gender are still valid bisexuals.
Anonymous: hi! i wanna know whether someone can be pan and bi at the same time? bc i can't see myself fitting into one or the other label :| sorry if this got confusing
If you mean, like, being panromantic and bisexual or pansexual and biromantic, then yes. Otherwise, no. You can’t be pansexual and bisexual at the same time.
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actually, yes you can. You can ID with as many labels as you feel like fit.
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Fact: Some bisexual people identify with gayness. Just as “gay” has been used as an umbrella term to refer to gay marriage, gay rights, and gay liberation, “gay” can also be used as an umbrella term that includes bisexual and other mga people such as pansexuals and polysexuals.
my experiences as a bisexual person cannot be boiled down to fucking “”“homophobia”“”