courteousmingler:

kuroba101:

allosexualmyth:

I looked up allosexual on Merriam-Webster and surprise, surprise. Nothing came up. I then looked up what the prefix “allo” actually means.

Allo-
Other; differing from the normal or usual.

I don’t like the implication that people that experience sexual attraction aren’t normal and I certainly am not fine, as a bi trans man, with being reduced to an “other”

So, yeah, don’t refer to me as allo/allosexual/etc. thanks.

That’s…not what it means.

I love how bigots are happy to openly lie about the basic meanings of words if it means they can attack queer people.

wow. 

openly lying is precisely what’s occurring here.

@allosexualmyth

see, if you put something in quotation marks while googing it, then google only shows pages that contain that exact text. anything *not* in quotation marks is optional. 

it’s almost like you pulled that definition entirely out of your ass?

there’s no page on this bright blue internet that describes “allo” as being defined by going against the norm and/or being unusual. 

you are, however, HEAVILY distorting the actual meaning of the word, which does involve the word “other”. but the use of the word “other” is by no means derogatory in this context, and the best lie contains a half-truth that makes it more difficult to disprove. your half-truth was the involvement of the word “other”, and your lie was painting the rest of your fabricated definition so that the use of the word “other” came across as a derogatory accusation of abnormality.

this is the root definition of “allo” as given by dictionary.com . it’s actually the second definition given, but i only forwent the first definition provided because it related strictly to chemistry (and you can go look at its definition in the context of chemistry if you’re interested.)

as you can see, the use of the word “other” is not to accuse the referred-to party of being abnormal, it is to simply point out that there is a difference between two groups, thus the use of the word “else” as a synonym in the definition provided. a more accurate translation of the root would be that it is a plural “someone else” or simply “the people who are not us”. 

and, personally, i believe “the people who are not part of this group we’re currently discussing” is the most respectful and politically correct root word that asexuals could POSSIBLY use. it infers absolutely nothing about the other party’s sexuality or identity, save for them not being part of the group being discussed (which in this case is asexuals). 

and, to put the final nail in the coffin of OP’s childish hypocrisy, I would like to point out that “allistic” (the agreed-upon term for a person who is not autistic) uses the precise same root word as “allosexual”, for precisely the same reasons. “allo” is but a matter-of-fact-statement that the person being discussed is not part of the marginalized group being referred to. 

so. if you believe using “allo” in terms of this nature is bigoted and/or wrong somehow, you are making a direct attack against autistic people as well as the attack against asexuals that you intended. 

even if you yourself are autistic, that does not give you the authority to demonize our community’s agreed terminology like this. individuals are fully capable of doing harm by their own oppressed group, and i will not fucking stand for this. 

so let’s talk about the underlying  motivations behind acephobes attacking the word “allosexual” so relentlessly. 

it is virtually impossible to form a coherent community of marginalized people (and even those who so ignorantly believe asexuals are not oppressed must concede to evidence of their marginalization) when the marginalized people in question to do not have a term for people who do not share in the specific experiences of that marginalized group.

every healthily functioning marginalized community has a term for those who are not them. it is practically impossible to overcome feelings of abnormality or brokenness otherwise. more than that, it is nearly entirely impossible to discuss community issues and address differences between those inside the marginalized group and those outside of it. 

terms like “cisgender” and “neurotypical” are core to addressing the struggles faced by the communities who coin these terms. it’s also imperative to the mental health of everyone in these communities that they have a term for these individuals other than “normal people” or “non-trans/non-neurodivergent”, as the prefix “non” implies that they are the default and that those in the marginalized community are freakish outsiders. 

so if you wanted to ensure that a marginalized community felt like freakish outsiders, and at the same time deprive them of the ability to effectively form safe spaces and discuss community issues….what do you do?

you attack any term they come up with for people outside their marginalized group. 

it’s extremely effective and disturbingly easy to do.

TERFs use this same tactic when they attack the word “cisgender”. they alienate transgender individuals by accusing “cisgender” of being a bigoted term, usually accusing it of being pedophilic because it supposedly assigns a detailed gender assessment to children.

if the term “cisgender” were to be too heavily stigmatized to ever enter popular use, and all other synonymous words were successfully shot down by similar accusations of bigotry? the trans community would suffer even more heavily than we already do, and we would struggle to feel that we are not inherently abnormal. we would struggle to discuss our oppression, and we would be effectively silenced. our ability to raise awareness to issues we face would be severely damaged, as would our general ability to form safe spaces.

language is an extremely, extremely powerful tool. 

which brings me to this: exclusionists as a movement have no direct problem with “allosexual” specifically. they have a problem with any word asexuals create to serve this purpose, because they do not want asexuals to view themselves as not being an abnormality. they do not want asexuals to be able to effectively form safe spaces, they do not want asexuals to have agency as a community. by forcing aces to rely on “non-ace” they are forcing them to admit they are unusual and outliers. 

here is the long list of words the ace community considered using, and the various ways in which they were accused of bigotry and shouted down. (x)

this is one of many, many tactics the ace exclusionist movement appropriated from TERFs. 

there’s. literally nothing wrong with the word “allosexual”, besides the fact that it helps aces to have agency, safe spaces, and unhindered intracommunity discourse. which are things the exclusionist movement simply can not allow.

because if exclusionists effectively make asexuals total pariahs from the LGBT community, and use subtle tactics such as this (as well as posting suicide bait in the ace positivity tag, and other such direct defilement of any safe space they create) to keep aces from regulating their OWN communities?

the community destabilizes due to not having sufficient language to discuss their experiences and seclude themselves from those who wish to harm them.

that’s the goal. policing a communities’ language can cause more drastic changes than you would think, as language effects the way we think significantly. 

asexuals fail to rally together and relate to one another. they as a community flounder, feel alone and alienated. when they say “go form your own community!” and then do shit like this? they’re baiting you into being silenced and having the community gradually dispersed. the rise in asexual suicide rates that would probably lead to is a BIG bonus in their eyes i’d imagine. 

anyway…OP is *so* allosexual it’s not even funny. 

TERF-mimicking allosexual.

Throws-autistics-under-the-bus-to-demonize-asexuals allosexual.

and an all around shit stain, frankly.