officalcisphobe:

@terfsafeuserboxes they’re one of Those Exclusionists™
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leaving Bad comments on posts is shitty but this is. out of hand. is there a reason they can’t just like not tag their posts are ace positivity

courteousmingler:

whoseventingthere:

questions-within-questions:

froborr:

theangrybi:

courteousmingler:

me: all exclusionists wrongfully preach that the oppressed group they’re attacking is somehow part of their privileged oppressors.

me: this tactic is not unique to LGBT issues, and is not exclusive to small-scale intracommunity issues, either. some of the worst atrocities in history were justified by spreading lies about how the victims were secretly responsible for all the worlds’ oppression. and it’s disturbing to see oppressed groups attack one another by recreating this in (a comparatively inconsequential) miniature. by saying, for example, that aces were responsible for the shooting in orlando. (x)

me: because the most effective way to attack the oppressed is to paint them to be the “actual” oppressive force, using their fight for rights as “proof” of their “oppressive intentions”. despite all evidence proving otherwise. simply rewrite history to erase past examples of their oppression, and discredit any new evidence that appears. it’s disturbingly easy to do. LGBT groups attempting to demonize and discredit one another is everything our oppressors wish to see of us. 

me: and to make matters worse, they usually accuse the oppressed group of being their own oppressors. trans women are accused of being men, aces are accused of being straight, etc. 

twerf, acephobe, or biphobe: okay but i’m nothing like those other AWFUL people!

me: ….how so?

twerf, acephobe, or biphobe: because i’m ACTUALLY CORRECT about that oppressed group secretly being my oppressor!! the difference between me and those other bigots is that i’m RIGHT!! my violence against the oppressed is JUSTIFIED, because i like to yell that they AREN’T OPPRESSED, which is something NONE OF THOSE OTHER EXCLUSIONISTS DO!! 


me: 

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Lmao y'all know what post I’m thinking of rn

some of the worst atrocities in history were justified by spreading lies about how the victims were secretly responsible for all the worlds’ oppression.

You know, I thought there was something familiar about oppressed people borrowing the language of the oppressor to attack another oppressed community while the oppressor sits back and laughs, something that made TERFs, acephobes, and biphobes feel particularly necessary to oppose, and this nailed it for me:

Pogroms.

This is exactly the kind of rhetoric that chased my ancestors out of Russia.

Not saying that TERFs or whomever are going to get anywhere near that level, obviously, this isn’t a Godwin, though given the usual level of nuance you find in Tumblr discourse I’m sure I’ll be accused of one anyway. But still, it’s a playbook y’all should really think twice about pulling pages from.

“The oppressed mistaking other oppressed groups for their oppressors” is a pattern I recently picked up on. The rhetoric concerning migrants leading up to brexit fit the pattern. People struggling for jobs find themselves blaming migrants rather than the actual government refusing to support them.

As a jewish person well versed in my people’s history, the use of scapegoating is VERY familiar to me. Good to see I’m not the only one who noticed a trend. 

for those who are curious for examples of this scapegoating and slander against asexuals…

here are links to posts interacted with by acephobes, where asexuals are compared to:

pedophiles (x) (x) (x)

nazis  (x) (x)

and mass murderers (x)

and lets not pretend the acephobe movement hasn’t actively encouraged physical violence against those on the ace spectrum. (x)

and for an example of material demonizing and scapegoating aces being delivered through comedy (arguably the most effective means of delivering rhetoric in a way that encourages the viewer to consume and accept it without examining it critically), look no further: (x)

acephobes look to paint aces as acceptable targets against which any form of vitriol can be taken out on.

  Anonymous: In my opinion, aces are not LGBT because no one faces oppression because they're ace. The LGBT community was created to fight against the oppression of them. Aces aren't LGBT. Obvsly if ur gay/bi/trans etc ace, you're LGBT, but not bc you're ace.

badasszombiespinster:

datmoki:

pride-flags-for-us:

That makes sense. -Mod Ita

actually that doesn’t, at all. acephobia is a thing. People DO face opression for being ace. I’m not ace myself so in order to not speak over them i’ll link you to this wonderful masterpost​. Also, theasexualityblog has a list of articles on the topic here under “discrimination”.

I can confirm yes people do face discrimination for being ace. You think people understood when I came out as ace? Do you think my life wasn’t different from that of a straight person? You think I didn’t spend hours crying myself to sleep because I wasn’t like every one of my friends? You think I didn’t have to put up with people claiming asexuality was a disease? That sexual attraction was the norm and people who weren’t were broken? The countless times I’ve listened to acephobia from friends and family? You think there isn’t discrimination in the work place? You think aces aren’t scared of coming out to colleagues because of the impact it would have on their jobs and lives? It doesn’t matter whether you are a heteroromantic, homoromantic, biromantic, aromantic or any other romantic type of ace - if you are ace you will experience discrimination. Stop turning this whole thing into a competition. Stop erasing asexuality from LGBTQIA+ and MOGAI. We exist, we are discriminated against, and we have been a part of this community for a long time

  Anonymous: In my opinion, aces are not LGBT because no one faces oppression because they're ace. The LGBT community was created to fight against the oppression of them. Aces aren't LGBT. Obvsly if ur gay/bi/trans etc ace, you're LGBT, but not bc you're ace.

pride-flags-for-us:

That makes sense. -Mod Ita

actually that doesn’t, at all. acephobia is a thing. People DO face opression for being ace. I’m not ace myself so in order to not speak over them i’ll link you to this wonderful masterpost​. Also, theasexualityblog has a list of articles on the topic here under “discrimination”.

Asexuality and the LGBT+ community

stuffjeevesloves:

hIn a rather shocking turn of events, a schism has started opening between the asexual/aromantic communities of Tumblr, and the LGBT+ communities of Tumblr. I’ve seen some shit floating around in the great toilet bowl of the Internet saying that aces/aros shouldn’t be considered a part of the LGBT+ community because asexuals and aromantics aren’t oppressed. I’ve also seen some even worse comments saying that aces/aros shouldn’t be considered part of the LGBT+ community because historically, we haven’t been.

First, I wanna quickly flush away that second turd, because shit, here I was thinking we’re all trying to work together to get our own identities recognised and leave old heteronormative/binary ways of thinking behind, but apparently not! The LGBT+ movement has some solid history behind it, now, so it should stop evolving and stay rooted where it is, of course! No more pushing the boundaries of perception or acceptance.

Yeah, fuck that. The LGBT+ community I support is a living, breathing entity which should understand the perspectives of everyone knocking on its door. Not some dusty old brick wall with a ‘Members Only’ sign hanging on it.

Now, that slightly more complex matter of oppression. A tricky one, for sure, because oppression is a subjective creature. What feels like a living hell to one person may look like a walk in the park to others. We’re all affected by different things in different ways, which is why it’s so hard sometimes to empathise with someone else’s situation.

This is why it’s so disappointing that select members of the LGBT+ community — a group who have fought against oppression so heavy it’s a textbook milestone in recent history — are choosing to turn their backs on asexuals and aromantics, in a similar fashion, dare I say, to how some homophobic people may choose to turn their backs on members of the LGBT+ community.

The label of ‘asexuality’ is something I only adopted over the past year. It gave me some comfort, because it explained some shit that had happened previously in my life. Then came a fresh set of challenges, because, yes, being asexual offers up its own little menu of pressing and hurtful moments. Asexual oppression is a thing that very much exists.

I am not dismissing the problems anyone is facing. I am not diminishing the oppression anyone is suffering. I am aware there are people in the world enduring worse, but this is what’s affecting us.

At a time when awareness of LGBT people continually and consistently breaks its own records, there’s still next-to-nought recognition of or representation for asexual or aromantic people. I adopted the ‘asexual’ label thinking it’s something I’d just be able to keep quiet — it’s the ‘lack of something’, after all, right? — but society is so steeped in sex, you always end up having to explain. The questions people ask you when you ‘come out’, per se, could sometimes be better, but the real thorn is when people insist you’re going through a phase, there’s something wrong with you, or, the classic, you might be gay.

It’s all starting to seem like a petty squabble over who has the biggest problems to face. That’s bad. It should continue to be a campaign for nothing but universal acceptance and understanding. Forgive me for resorting to a clichéd trope here, but there’s already enough anger, pain, anguish, and hate in the world without kindling the fire through little Iron Man vs. Captain America civil wars inside communities which want the same thing: comfort.

How do we move forward, and do asexuals and aromantics even need to be a part of the LGBT+ community? Not necessarily, but why the fuck not — is there some set of rules? When we all get caught up in the emotional #LoveWins-esque successes — the ripples of acceptance across the globe — do we pull out the Ten Commandments of What Is Love Baby Don’t Hurt Me? No, we fucking celebrate, that’s what we do, because it’s awesome. That little + at the end of LGBT is not finite, and nor should it be.

Right now, aces/aros have a very weak foothold in society. We’re not part of the straight side or the LGBT+ side. We’re stuck in the middle getting harassment from both ends, when there shouldn’t be any form of harassment whatsoever. We’re deemed broken, we’re deemed sick, we’re deemed mentally ill. We’re told it’s something we can, and should, correct. And there are some dark methods of ‘correction’ I don’t even want to mention.

As that weak foothold grows stronger and we start to climb, the oppression will undoubtedly climb with it, and we’ll face fresh challenges. We’d rather not be alone for that, just as any member of the LGBT+ community would rather not be alone when facing oppression. Are we going to knot together and help one another up, or risk falling with nobody to catch us? Your call.

A gargantuan thank-you to everyone in the LGBT+ community who accept asexuals and aromantics as part of the movement.

My Ask box is open for anyone wishing to share their thoughts.

  Anonymous: Okay but it especially pisses me off because I can't even claim that BBC Sherlock is ace without getting anon hate about how I'm being "homophobic" for daring to read him as asexual and telling me that asexual representation is "less important" than homosexual representation.

theasexualityblog:

spacexualkids:

ok but like correct me if im wrong (bc i don’t watch that garbage show) but he’s not canonically gay??? so how are u overriding anything?

also do those people not understand that gay aces exist, or? awkward.

Sherlock Holmes has been read as ace since the books and even before there was a commonly acknowledged word for asexuals.

Seriously. He’s legit always been a representation for asexuality. While I, as someone who is a huge fan of BBC Sherlock, can see why people might read that particular adaptation as gay, it’s far from homophobic to read him as ace. Especially, as @spacexualkids mentioned, gay ace is a valid orientation that exists. (Personally, I read BBC Sherlock as homoromantic demisexual/asexual, but that’s just me). 

  Anonymous: could you explain what you meant with that ace-post you reblogged? (i'm talking about that one which basically said that aces aren't lgbtqa+) i'm confused

dumb-science-jokes:

memeufacturing-deactivated20161:

just some quick explanations

*community for people disenfranchised from society because of their sexuality disenfranchises people from their society because of their sexuality*

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